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Our decision regarding EdenFantasys

May 25th, 2010

This is the last post that will be made about the Edenfantasys issues on this site.

Insatiable Desire will continue our affiliation with EdenFantasys, despite what some view as unethical behavior from EdenFantasys regarding their link policies.

My opinion on their link policies is likely in line with most that have a technical background. The method of linking they are using isn’t protecting anyone, and worse may be providing a false sense of security to the site owners. Either way, you are eventually transfered to the destination website, and at that point there is no “protection” at all. Personally, I think they should get a second opinion from another programmer, and disable this piece of code.

However, once I got over my initial irritation, I gave it some serious thought. Sometimes I can be rather impulsive, as I was with my various comments the other day. Usually I stay out of drama, and I avoid forums like the plague (the stupidity of some people never ceases to piss me off, so I’d prefer not to waste time on it). It looked like this issue was going to directly affect us, so I got involved.

For us, we didn’t join with EdenFantasys because of backlinks, and rayne wasn’t allowed to become a reviewer with the specific idea that it would raise the pagerank of insatiabledesire.com. I’ll grant you that there was an assumption on our part that any links would be what’s considered “normal”, but it wasn’t part of our reasoning for rayne joining their various programs.

The review program was of interest because we had virtually no non-bdsm related sex toys. As far as I’m aware, EdenFantasys has always lived up to their end of the bargain with regards to rayne’s toy reviews. They provide the toy, rayne provides an honest review of it. We’ve never been pressured to provide a “good”, or “bad”, review, but were told to be honest.

I allowed rayne to begin writing occasionally for them because it was essentially a “paid” gig (albeit in EdenFantasys gift cards, but it’s still valuable). This gave our site more exposure in that our name gets out there. People can still click a link and come to our site, if they wish. The gift cards allow us to fill in our toy collection with things that aren’t provided by the review program. Once again, I’m not aware of us ever having issues with this relationship. EdenFantasys lived up to all of their promises here as well.

And finally, we’re an affiliate and refer people to edenfantasys.com from our website. This does tie in with the review program, but we joined the affiliate program for the same reason most everyone does: money. Their commissions schedule still sort of confuses me, but I will tell you that again EdenFantasys has lived up to their side of the bargain. Sales made via links on insatiabledesire.com provide commissions back to us and help us to keep the site up and running. We’ve received numerous payments, and have never had trouble with EdenFantasys keeping their part of the deal.

So, you see, for us it’s easy. I do believe that their linking policies aren’t right, but the rest of our relationship with EdenFantasys has been extremely positive. Some of you that have blogged about this have asked “How can I refer other people to EdenFantasys if I don’t trust them?”. I’d suggest really analyzing the situation, and make sure you’re not feeding off of everyone elses fury. Peer pressure is alive and well on the Internet, afterall.

We refer people to EdenFantasys because they have always lived up to their side in all our dealings with them. I cannot base my decisions on gossip, because a “friend of a friend who knows someones brother” may have had a bad experience. I wasn’t involved in that, and really can’t form an opinion on one side of the story. If back links, and raising your sites pagerank, is your focus, maybe an affiliation with EdenFantasys isn’t a good fit for you. There’s nothing wrong with that.

Without any hesitation, we will continue our affiliation, and continue to recommend EdenFantasys. I ask that everyone respect our decision.

One final thing… If you choose to post a comment anonymously, you will stay anonymous. We do not give out the identity of any anonymous poster, for any reason, ever. If someone claims that we’ve given out an anonymous posters IP or name, they are lying. You can assume this is true at all times, in every situation. There has never been an exception.

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  1. May 25th, 2010 at 09:34 | #1

    While I made my decision to part for different reasons I applaud you on making a well thought out decision on what is in the best interest for yourselves.

  2. Anonomous
    May 25th, 2010 at 15:09 | #2

    This is how it should be. Everyone involved in this situation should base their decision on what is in the best interest of themselves, including the company involved. If doing toy reviews is about the link back for someone, then by all means, they should quit doing reviews for that company. If someone feels their relationship with a particular company truly is a negative one, there is no shortage of other companies to review for.

    What I don’t understand is why nobody is bitching about all the other toy companies who never link in ANY WAY back to the blogs that review for them. If we are all entitled to these link backs, where are the demands to other companies to comply with this standard?

  3. May 26th, 2010 at 09:26 | #3

    Anonomous :

    What I don’t understand is why nobody is bitching about all the other toy companies who never link in ANY WAY back to the blogs that review for them. If we are all entitled to these link backs, where are the demands to other companies to comply with this standard?

    Ya know, that’s a good point.

  4. May 26th, 2010 at 16:32 | #4

    I think the root of the problem was the disingenuity of the approach, not the idea of linking itself. To over-simplify here, it’s like being given a lollipop…while you might not expect the lollipop, it would be better not to get one at all than one that looks nice and tastes bad.

  5. Anonymous
    May 26th, 2010 at 20:47 | #5

    I actually don’t care about the links. It’s a business decision. I care about their reaction. To have forum threads locked, deleted (some within minutes) and contributors locked out instantly amounts to dealing with somebody that I can’t trust. It looks like a coverup, especially when they’ve dealt with other real issues in the past.

  6. Anonymous
    May 26th, 2010 at 20:49 | #6


    Have you disabled javascript and gone through others? I did the other night. I went randomly all over the internet for 10 minutes and everything worked. I ended up at Babeland and found almost no links to test. Their site is set up differently but it does not appear to have links in the first place. I didn’t check anything else.

  7. May 27th, 2010 at 07:50 | #7

    @Anonymous Then there are a great many forums you should never visit. Fetlife, for one.

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