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Internal Enslavement vs. External Enslavement vs. Rayne O.o

May 4th, 2010

I don’t know that I’ve ever talked much about “internal enslavement”.  I’ve never really spent much time researching the exact definition.  I mean, what would be the point? I’d come back with twenty different view points, a hundred different philosophies and a thousand “one true way”s.  I’m way too easy to confuse for all that nonsense.

So when I see it talked about, I usually apply my own idea of what internal enslavement means.

I guess I’m part of the problem, huh?

So the other day, when I read the thread I thought I was called a “wannabe slave” in, and what seems to be their definition of internal enslavement, I was thoroughly nonplussed (perplexed).  What do I mean?

Well, judging by their definition of “external enslavement” (anything that physically prohibits the slave from leaving, so long as it’s not “kink fluff”), one can only assume that their definition of internal enslavement is to be mentally and emotionally incapable of leaving.

In that case… internal enslavement is gonna be easier to achieve than I once thought! Matter of fact, one could probably say I’m already internally enslaved.  Because I know, mentally, that if I try to leave, I’m gonna be one hurtin’ puppy, and the emotion “fear” keeps me from attempting it.

(I mean, among other things, like love, and loyalty, and respect, and promises I made, and…)

I win!

Somewhere along the line, I got the idea that there was a hell of a lot more involved in “internal enslavement” than simply brainwashing the slave into not having the mental capacity to walk out the door.  Doesn’t it seem like there should be? I mean, aren’t we spending a lot of time trying to point out to all of the world that there’s more to slavery than whips and chains and sex and pain and bondage and…?

(Yes, I do know I say “I mean” entirely too often.  Shut up.  I don’t care what you think.)

(Okay, so I do care what you think.)

(I’m still not gonna stop saying “I mean”, so there!)

There is more to my slavery than the sexual aspects.  Just as there is more to it than simply not having the ability to leave.  And somehow, I think, if the only thing that needed internalizing was the belief that I can’t leave, this slavery gig would be much fuckin’ easier.

Unfortunately, for a chick like me, who did the exact opposite of everything my parents wanted me to do from about age 13 on, and kicked the shit out of my boyfriend every time he raised a hand to me for the last two years or so of our relationship, there are a whole slew of things that need to be internalized.  Like obedience without hesitation or comment, what my owner considers “slave-like behavior”, not having the right to hit back even if I don’t like something He does… Those things don’t just magically manifest.  At least, not for me.

Gods, wouldn’t it be easier if they did?

I mean, for Cabbage’s sake (We’re on a first name basis, now, and Cabbage is Asian, so Cabbage is really his first name.  Or is it his middle name? In any case, he likes to go by Cabbage.), I had a comment when M sent me to the shower this morning.  And I had super new bath soap and lotion I was excited to try.  Our shower depresses me.  That’s the basic gist of it.  It’s so small even “The Nameless One” would have trouble moving around in it.

What the fuck, and I’m making excuses.  See? Slavery not internalized! I rest my case.


Okay, so… if there’s more to internal enslavement, as I think I’ve proven here (Shut up, I have so, too.), that means there’s more to external enslavement than just slapping a bitch in a cage (I typed “cave” first.), or locking a chain around her ankle.  Right?

Like… Wouldn’t the fact that M’s home damn near 24/7, and if I made for the door, He’d probably chain me to the couch, after kicking the shit out of me, technically be external enslavement?

Or what about the fact that He walks around the house with something in His hands almost every day and I get beaten from pretty much the moment He wakes up till the moment He goes to sleep? I mean, obviously a good amount of fear of what might happen… Shit, fear’s emotional, that’s internal.  Or is it?

(And for the record? This is about how that thread goes, too.)

Being chained because you’re acting up doesn’t count as “external enslavement”, but being chained while you’re owner’s asleep does.  Being put in a cage for fun isn’t external enslavement, but being put in a cage so you don’t run away is.

It’s enough to make your head spin.

For me, being that I’ve had to internalize much more than just not being able to leave, external enslavement is more than just a chain around an ankle or a cage over one’s head.  It’s all outward signs that one is owned.  Cuffs and/or collar one wears, if worn all the time and not just during a scene.  A specific state of dress.  Particular protocols (voice training, standing at attention, etc.) one is required to follow.

From where I sit, all of these things effectively hold a slave in his or her place.  All of them prevent the slave from forgetting what he or she is.  And all of them are external, versus internal, and could be, in my mind, considered external enslavement.

But I’m just a slave, who isn’t even internalized yet, so what the fuck do I know?

~pig whore

  1. May 4th, 2010 at 15:08 | #1

    On the contrary I think you ARE in Internal Enslavement. We all are in a way. (Bear with me here, I’m going philosophical). If you think about it, you’re a slave to your own mindset, the point of training to to make you a slave to HIS mindset. You’re right, thoughts that go against something we’ve trained ourselves to do or think when X happens don’t just manifest out of no where. It’s why we NEED the training.

    You are a slave. And personally it doesn’t matter what that means to everyone and their sister. This is a lifestyle, you form it to match YOUR life. Not everyone else’s. It’s a bit like making chicken soup. Anyone can make chicken soup, but what they choose to put in it: if they use a can; make it from scratch; add tomatoes or onions or spices or noodles; or rice etc, etc, etc. is up to each individual person. What works for them won’t always work for you and M.

    Forget what the peanut gallery has to say and focus on what M says. He’s the one training you to be enslaved to his specifications, only what he deems “internal enslavement” really matters here.

  2. leslie
    May 4th, 2010 at 18:48 | #2

    Whether you publish this comment or not really makes no difference to me, just the fact that you read it does. You complain, whine and bitch about the people in that group you are referring too on more than one occasion, so why do you keep rejoining a group that you so obviously hate? You join, you leave, you join and then leave again and so on. You don’t what the majority in that group believes and you are so adamant about not being defined that you made your own group, Don’t Define Me, so why stay. I guess somewhere you feel not up to par or inadequate in your own relationship that you feel the need to make jokes about the very people you seem to need acceptance from. Get a life, a real one and stick to your group where you don’t have to worry about being defined as something you obviously aren’t.

  3. May 5th, 2010 at 06:07 | #3

    @leslie Aren’t you cute?

    For future reference, in case you decide to come again to my personal space just to rip me a new one… Generally speaking, I only delete spam. I wear big girl panties. 🙂

    I wasn’t complaining about the group. I wasn’t even complaining about the thread. I was simply saying I have a differing opinion. Last I checked, having differing opinions is still the right of the people. Joining some group on a kink site doesn’t change that, I don’t think.

    And coming here to express it instead of arguing about my difference of opinion in your group? That’s my right, too! I know! Isn’t that nuts?

    I don’t hate the group. A lot of times, there’s some decent information passed around there. I just dislike one or two people in it. But that’s true of all the groups I belong to on Fetlife, including my own. My mama always said that would be true of everywhere I go. So I suppose I’ll survive.

    The jokes here? Were just jokes. They weren’t at anyone’s expense. Just me being silly. But it’s funny that you took time out of your busy slave schedule, came here to read the drivel of what you obviously consider a “wannabe slave”, and took so much of it to heart.

    You poor thing. Obviously, I’m not the one in need of a real life.

  4. alwaysHistora
    May 5th, 2010 at 11:20 | #4

    As a person who just left that said group, I really enjoyed my time there. Oftentimes I didn’t agree with other posters but we were are able to keep it decent and open.

    Something has changed, and it wasn’t for the best.

    I dont’ fully agree with rayne’s version of IE/EE, and I don’t fully agree with the consensus of the O/p group re IE/EE. Doesn’t invalidate either one, doesn’t invalidate my view either.

  5. May 5th, 2010 at 12:44 | #5

    Wow, guess I’m out of the loop cause I didn’t even know what group you were talking about (nor cared). I liked your opinion and you always are good at poking fun at your own expense. Interesting that people felt the need to come ‘defend’ themselves. Almost as exciting as the emails I get telling me I have no right to write about submission for the guide because I’m not a trwoo submissive in my own relationship.

    Bah I say, just bah.
    .-= lunaKM´s last blog ..Understanding Your Body’s Responses During Play =-.

  6. May 5th, 2010 at 13:25 | #6

    Lol @ Leslie. Yeah Rayne, how dare you use your PERSONAL BLOG for poking fun at yourself and venting about your PERSONAL LIFE. Geeze don’t you know you’re supposed to give us all money or something so we say we love you forever? And here I thought you were a true friend, buying the rest of us with your wallet instead of your creative wit. Damn. 😛

  7. May 5th, 2010 at 17:02 | #7

    Are you for real?

    I wonder if leslie sees the irony of her comment here.

  8. May 5th, 2010 at 22:00 | #8

    @Melen Unfortunately, she probably is.

  9. May 5th, 2010 at 22:15 | #9


    I saws that thread start, and knew from the get go that I’d proably go nuts trying to follow it. It sounded too much like the intrinsic/extrinsic motivation debates in education circles.

    For what it’s worth, I look at internal enslavement (and keep in mind, I’m on thenoutside looking in) as a mindset in the slave’s head that causes her to not want to be a non-slave. Having said that, I have to add that everyone has bouts of wanting out of whatever they’re doing, no matter how right it is for them or how much they want it. What’s key, as far as I can tell, is that the internally enslaved person, even when rebelling, knows that they’re screwing up, big time. From my corner, the brainwashed slacve who believes they can’t leave is in external enslavement, not internal.

    That’s not to say they both can’t exist at the same time. Obviously someone can believe that slavery is right for them, that leaving would be the biggest mistake since Watergate, and also beleive that leaving is simply not possible. But, the classic methods of exernal enslavement, in my opinion, can’t make a slave on their own. Granted, you can enslave someone against their will (just look at history) by use of force, restraints and fear, but is that person really a slave? In the sense of a willing power exchange? For a willing slave (such as yourself), the use of external enslavement by Melen can only be an adjunct to your internal enslavement; keeping you safe from your bouts of rebellion while they run their course. And isn’t that a nice thing to be able to fall back on?


    PS I’m writing an original short story for the blog.

  10. May 8th, 2010 at 11:06 | #10

    @dweaver999 Ooo… I can’t wait to read it! ^.^

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